tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post3919657645373764361..comments2020-06-23T18:44:02.034-07:00Comments on Captain America! Redefining Modern Myth: Emails #28: Teaser Trailer "The Cold"Ben Alpihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02349155228789121570noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-56744686437923621922011-04-10T23:48:42.944-07:002011-04-10T23:48:42.944-07:00Thanks for commenting Luke! Years ago I was talkin...Thanks for commenting Luke! Years ago I was talking to Rick about this very thing. I wondered if it could be done-- Cap is indeed kind of one-note so, how difficult it might be to write a compelling screenplay about him? I'm not sure about an infinite serial like the comic, but for a film, that very question is exactly the conflict I wanted Cap to have and exactly what I wanted him to answer. I mean, if you take any super hero's ideals away, what are they but a suit and a gimmick? Take Superman's Truth/Justice or Spider-man's Power/Responsibility away and what are you left with? I think one of the things that makes these characters last decade after decade are their ideals. Sure, if Cap was just a walking American flag spouting political talking points, I'd be the first out the door. But, if we look into the man behind the mask, suddenly we have a unique and complex assemblage of experiences over time that is at once amazing and tragic. Through Cap's mythology we can shine light on all kinds of concepts, lessons and conflicts. I think a lot of folks reminisce about what friendship used to mean-- about friends who would go to the ends of the Earth for each other whereas these days, talk is cheap. I see a Cap film as a wonderful opportunity to remind us all what an ideal American is like. And I don't even mean Cap! Cap is the spirit guide through which we see the ideal American. Hard working, charitable, dedicated, open-minded. The kind of person who grows not of revising history, but who grows out of the pain of injustice towards peoples, workers and women to become more than a some of those parts. What does it mean to be a good and decent person regardless of race, religion or creed? Steve Rogers is not these things, Steve Rogers strives for these things. Captain America was born out of patriotism, but that does not mean that's all he is. Like any compelling story, we must look into the deeper, human meaning as well as the cool stuff. Hopefully that gives you some insight as to my view!Ben Alpihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349155228789121570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-45736874754652697002011-04-10T18:24:38.556-07:002011-04-10T18:24:38.556-07:00Luke - It sounds like you have problems with the c...Luke - It sounds like you have problems with the character of Captain America himself. I want to thank you for commenting. Is Cap the greatest character ever imagined in comics? No. Not even close. I wouldn't begin to debate that here. I know that as a writer yourself, character is an important issue, perhaps THE important issue when sitting down to write. So, to answer partially how a writer can get new mileage out of a limited concept - they can't. Every writer on Cap or any other soap opera style comic comes in and puts their own spin, their own face on the characters and stories. Some Cap stories are more sci-fi, some more crime, some more villain of the month, some more conspiracy edged. Cap in particular became whatever the writer wanted to talk about.<br /><br />A lot of comic characters are particularly one note and I am certainly not defending this quality by any stretch of the imagination. I am acknowledging that serial comics/characters change hands and end up with confusing, snarled, contradictory and sometimes downright unworkable histories. Cap's long history is littered with stops, starts and various miscues.<br /><br />When we started we asked the question, how do you write a two hour modern film for a character with 70 years of history?<br /><br />Next to this, I will add the question of how a writer can get new mileage out of such a limited concept (i.e. living symbol/patriotism)?<br /><br />Luke, thank you again! I think there are a lot of areas to be covered and you bring up valid concerns.RICK Arthur, Founderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925622575714675074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-20811796582974501882011-04-09T21:46:26.649-07:002011-04-09T21:46:26.649-07:00I've been thinking about why Cap never impress...I've been thinking about why Cap never impressed me as a character. Looking back at the Lee-Kirby stories in Tales of Suspense, it was concepts like the Cosmic Cube and AIM with its synthetic humans that I enjoyed, the SF stuff, not the patriotic theme.<br /><br />Cap is basically a superhero wrapped in the US flag. Sure, you can explore themes related to patriotism, but that can run dry quickly. The man-out-of-his-time aspect gave some depth to the character with his 1960s revival but in the end he was just a living symbol fighting super villains.<br /><br />For me a character has to be more than a symbol. Take away the patriotic aspect and all you have is another superhero with superior fighting skills and a gimmick weapon (his shield). Sorry, but I'm not impressed with the red-white-and-blue personified. I don't see how a writer can get much new mileage out of such a limited concept.<br /><br />(Hey, you wanted comments. Maybe this will kick start some discussion.)Luke T. Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04527411288764968714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-47878863163819905412011-04-08T23:46:32.467-07:002011-04-08T23:46:32.467-07:00War is madness, a barbarity that cuts all the way ...War is madness, a barbarity that cuts all the way to the core. There is no avoiding this reality.<br /><br />Cap must find the Red Skull and stop him. How many times in his life had he wanted to quit? Learning to walk again and falling down, face crushed into the dirt. He can almost hear those bullies laughing and calling him names. He must rise up. Stand and walk or drag himself inch by terrible inch. "Baseball? Son, with hard work you may be able to hobble on crutches. You'll never walk again..." Somewhere inside him a flame burns and he feels the heat spiderweb throughout his veins and flush his cheek. "...You'll never walk again..."RICK Arthur, Founderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925622575714675074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-59701164432200368142011-04-08T23:35:24.096-07:002011-04-08T23:35:24.096-07:00In the dream/memory/vision Captain America faces a...In the dream/memory/vision Captain America faces a defining moment in his life. So much has happened up until now, much of it sobering. Every event, every death, every bullet fired has led Cap to this one moment. When it is over, he will be changed forever. Every whistle, every tea kettle, every train whistle will sound differently from now on. Snow which had always seemed so playful will now carry with it great foreboding. He pictures the bare foot of the dead soldier who was his age. He is surrounded by the barely living and they are too weak to scream so he does it for them, long and loud echoing off the far hills. No one hears. No one comes. War was a game with carved soldiers on a stump, a harmless diversion for a sick boy with a restless mind.RICK Arthur, Founderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925622575714675074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-86916920749623420462011-04-08T21:04:24.775-07:002011-04-08T21:04:24.775-07:00"The Cold" is a snippet taken from the e..."The Cold" is a snippet taken from the end of Captain America's WWII era. The war is over by only a few hours and the Red Skull has killed Bucky. Cap has been badly injured yet pursues the Skull with all his strength. Here is where the story begins. Cap is fading fast in the snow and it would be so easy to rest here and let his Nazi enemy escape. No one would blame him after everything that had happened. Just rest a minute, one minute. He falls to the ground and blacks out from pain and exhaustion. The wind is howling so loudly. Unbidden his mind unlocks a memory of a terrible place and the unspeakable horror he saw there.RICK Arthur, Founderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925622575714675074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1048006265600046573.post-64759998616553554962011-04-08T20:51:03.538-07:002011-04-08T20:51:03.538-07:00We have talked about Steve Rogers as a young boy, ...We have talked about Steve Rogers as a young boy, struggling against illness and learning about patriotism. As a young man so many things are out of reach physically and socially. After he is transformed by the Super Solder Serum, it seem as if the pace of his life accelerates. He becomes a man in combat, a leader during chaos, a moral compass and an inspiration to the regular joes who have lost hope. His costume makes him both target and symbol.RICK Arthur, Founderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925622575714675074noreply@blogger.com